The Lieflock Line, Wootton Rivers and Tangley Trees

Birth date deduced from age (51) at 1871 census

Ball, Pewsey, Wiltshire, England HO107 1180/14 F42 P16

Pricilla (sic) Stone;50;;Wilts Clara Stone;20;Dress maker;Wilts Eliza Stone;15;;Wilts William Stone;12;;Wilts Lucy Stone;8;;Wilts Louisa Lovelock;19;;Wilts Jacob Smith;22;;Wilts

Robin Lovelock email to Lovelock list 15 Sep 04

Leafing through some papers I noticed that some time ago (date uncertain!) I'd highlighted an item under Pewsey Marriages in 'Lovelocks in Wiltshire by Parish'; namely: 1857 Mar 31 John Lovelock of Wootton Rivers & Clara Stone. I'd also highlighted two Pewsey deaths, which I took to be those of the aforementioned John and Clara: he 1881 Feb 26 aged 64 and she 1902 Jan 12 aged 81. [...]

The 1851 Census for Wootton Rivers includes the following household:

Catherine Lovelock, 63, Head, Shoebinder (Widow), Birthplace WR John, 33, Son, Boot and Shoe Maker, Birthplace WR Martha Lane, 17, Gd-Daur

[...] Among the children of Catherine and Thomas was John c. 29 Dec 1816 at WR. [...]

So my suggestion is that the John Lovelock who died on 22 Feb 1881 (or was buried on 26th?) aged 64 is the same man married in Pewsey in 1857 (i.e. then aged 40 - Clara would have been about 36 then) and also the same John L living with his mother in Wootton Rivers in 1851 aged 33; could the apparent slight age discrepancies with both marriage and census ages be partially explained by a 'late' baptism? (Martha Lane could presumably be the daughter of one of Catherine's (married?) daughter's; we have Ann shown as marrying James Bunce, but we know of three other daughters.)

Robert Sterry email to Lovelock list 7-Oct-04

I have confirmation that John Lovelock, shoemaker, aged 33 in the 1851 census who was baptised in Wootton Rivers in 1816 (son of Thomas Lovelock and Catherine Haywood on the Lieflock line) and who died at Pewsey in 1881 aged 64 also married Clara Stone. Here's the 1871 entry for 46 North Street, Pewsey:

John Lovelock, Head, 54, Cordwainer, born Wootton Rivers Clara Lovelock, Wife, 51, Bonnet Maker, born Pewsey Eliza Stone, Boarder, unmarried, 47, born Pewsey Sarah Lovelock, Visitor, unmarried, 26, Servant, born Hull, Yorkshire Alfred Stone, Visitor, unmarried, 25, Taylor, Melksham, Wiltshire

John and Clara were married at Pewsey: 1857 Mar 31 John Lovelock of Wootton Rivers & Clara Stone

They don't appear to have had any children.

Clara was also buried at Pewsey: 1902 Jan 12 Clara Lovelock, aged 81

Eliza Stone was probably Clara's sister and Alfred possibly a nephew.

But who the devil is Sarah Lovelock from Yorkshire?

James Loveluck email to Lovelock mailing list 10-Oct-04

Here's a possible answer to this question: Maurice Lovelock and Louisa Stone, who married at Pewsey on 26 Mar 1840, had 9 children, including Sarah Lovelock who, according to Graham, was bap. 26 Dec 1850 at Drypool, Hull, Yorks. The date doesn't fit the age (26) at the 1871 census, but this could be an error (maybe 21 instead of 26). Further evidence for this connection is that Sarah L married Tom (?) Styles at Pewsey 21 Jun 1871. Now in the 1891 census we have the following entry for River St. Pewsey:

Clara Lovelock, Head, widow, age 71, Hatter and Straw Milliner, born Pewsey Kate Stiles, Niece, age 11, born Pewsey

This could mean that Louisa Stone (wife of Maurice L) and Clara Lovelock, née Stone, were sisters - except that Kate Stiles/Styles would have to be a grand-niece rather than a niece, but in view of the age difference this is likely.

Graham Lovelock, email to Robert, Robin and self 7-Oct-04:

You may be thinking we have the mystery of Sarah to deal with, but not so. You may recall that Clara Stone had a sister Louisa, one year or so her junior. Louisa married Maurice Lovelock on 26 Mar 1840. And on 25 Dec 1850 at Drypool in Yorkshire was baptised Sarah the daughter of Morrice (sic) and Louisa Lovelock - according to the LDS website. Maurice was a carpenter, so I imagine he must have been engaged on some significant job. Sarah is thus Clara's niece. Clara had a brother - just the one - William Frederick, so it is perfectly possible, as suggested, that Alfred Stone is Clara's nephew.

RG 09 1308 F5 P4 Pewsey High Street John Lovelock Head Marr 40 Cordwinder Wooton Rivers Wilts Sarah Lovelock Wife Marr 39 [Strawbonnet?]maker Pewsey Wilts Eliza Stone [?] Sister-in-law 34 Do Pewsey Wilts

Note that Sarah is presumably a mis-interpretation of Clara, since John marr Clara Stone. Eliza Stone is presumably Clara's sister.

46 North Street, Pewsey:

John Lovelock, Head, 54, Cordwainer, born Wootton Rivers Clara Lovelock, Wife, 51, Bonnet Maker, born Pewsey Eliza Stone, Boarder, unmarried, 47, born Pewsey Sarah Lovelock, Visitor, unmarried, 20, Servant, born Hull, Yorkshire Alfred Stone, Visitor, unmarried, 25, Taylor, Melksham, Wiltshire

Note: Sarah Lovelock is probably [1089] the dau of Maurice L and Louisa Stone (sister of Clara Stone). See marriage notes.

Dwelling: High St Census Place: Pewsey, Wiltshire, England Source: FHL Film 1341497 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2060 Folio 53 Page 2 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Clara LOVELOCK W 59 F Pewsey, Wiltshire, England Rel: Head Occ: Milliner Eliza STONE U 54 F Pewsey, Wiltshire, England Rel: Sister Occ: No Occupation

Clara was née Stone and had several sisters including Eliza Stone.

River St, Pewsey

Surname Forenames Relationship Marital Status Age Occupation Birthplace LOVELOCK Clara Head Widow 71 Hatter and Straw Milliner Pewsey STILES Kate Niece 11 Pewsey

Note that Clara's sister Louisa marr Maurice Lovelock, and they had a dau Sarah who married Tom Styles; Kate Stiles/Styles was one of their children.