Glamorgan Lovelucks

Margaret Loveluck1857

Name
Margaret Loveluck
Given names
Margaret
Surname
Loveluck
Birth 1857 52 41

Christening 26 April 1857
MarriageThomasView this family
yes

Death of a brotherEdward Loveluck
between April 1871 and June 1871 (Age 14 years)
MarriageThomas Richard GriffithsView this family
about September 1877 (Age 20 years)
Shared note: Married St David's Carmarthen
Death of a fatherJohn Loveluck
1889 (Age 32 years)
Death of a motherMary Lloyd
7 June 1892 (Age 35 years)
Death of a sisterAnn Loveluck
4 April 1914 (Age 57 years)
Shared note: Arthur Turner-Thomas has date of death 14 Apr 1914
Death of a brotherDavid Loveluck
1935 (Age 78 years)

Deathyes

Family with parents - View this family
father
mother
Marriage: 26 March 1836Llantwit Major, Glamorgan, Wales
21 months
elder sister
2 years
elder sister
3 years
elder sister
6 years
elder sister
4 years
elder brother
Edward Loveluck
Birth: between April 1849 and June 1849 44 33Registration District, Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales
Death: between April 1871 and June 1871Registration District, Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales
4 years
elder brother
3 years
elder brother
Thomas Loveluck
Birth: 1854 49 38
Death: about March 1855Registration District, Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales
4 years
herself
Family with Thomas Richard Griffiths - View this family
husband
herself
Marriage: about September 1877Registration District, Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales
child
child
Family with Thomas - View this family
husband
herself
Marriage:
child
child

Marriage

Married St David's Carmarthen

Marriage

Janet Hearle states married (? or lived?) Kimbolten

31-May-06 Possible 1881 census entry (cf letter Lynne Davis 20 Apr 06): Dwelling:6 Allens Row Census Place:Wellingborough, Northampton, England Source:FHL Film 1341378 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1573 Folio 21 Page 35 MarrAgeSexBirthplace John THOMASM38 MCarnarvon Rel:Head Occ:Farm Labourer Margaret THOMAS M25 F Glamorgan Rel:Wife David THOMAS 2 MCarmarthen Rel:Son John E. THOMAS 1 MChichester, Sussex, England

Possible mariage: Marriages Dec 1881 GRIFFITHS Margaret Neath 11a933 ISAAC Rees Neath 11a933 REES Mary Ann Neath 11a933 Thomas John Neath 11a933

But this doesn't fit in with census entry.

I wasn't able to find a FreeBMD record of the birth of John E Thomas in 1880 in Sussex, however, I did find a John E Griffiths: Births Jan-Mar 1880 Griffiths, John Edward Westhampnett RD, Sussex, 2b 413 (Westhampnett is quite close to Chichester)

I wonder if the two children in the 1881 census were really children of Margaret's previous marriage, and were recorded as Thomas to disguise the fact that Margaret was not actually married to John Thomas at the time?

Lynne Davis, letter 8/9-Jun-07:

1891 Census RG12/4516 Ffald

Mary Lovelock 74, head, wid., farmer b m--- David Lovelock 35, farmer's son David Thomas 13 grandson, born Wellingbro, Northamptonshire William Thomas, 9, grandson, born Wellingbro, Northamptonshire Margaret Thomas 7, grand-daughter, born Wellingbro, Northamptonshire Elizabeth Thomas 3 grand-daughter, born Wellingbro, Northamptonshire

I couldn't find a FreeBMD record for Elizabeth in Northamptonshire, but I did find one for Margaret Jane) : Births Dec 1883 THOMAS, Margaret Jane Wellingbro' 3b 163

There is also a William Thomas Griffiths born Wellinbro' RD: Births Dec 1881 GRIFFITHS, William Thomas Wellingbro' 3b 163

Shared note

From the notes of Janet Hearle: Margaret (nee Loveluck) Griffiths had six children according to her granddaughter Elizabeth Griffiths to whom we are indebted for much information: but three daughters and one son had the surname Thomas, and two sons had the surname Griffiths, so Margaret probably married twice; but Elizabeth Griffiths only had possession of the Griffiths - Loveluck marriage certificate. She also said her grandparents went to Kimbolton or Wellingborough in Northamptonshire when they were married, and that at one time they kept the Fox hotel, Kimbolton and had a milk round.