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Thomas LovelockAge: 84 years17431827

Name
Thomas Lovelock
Given names
Thomas
Surname
Lovelock
Birth between 1743 and 1744

MarriageLydia CarterView this family
November 21, 1771 (Age 28 years)
Text:

1771 Nov 21 Thomas Lovelock, bachelor from Twyford and Lydia Carter, spinster, from Twyford Wit: Sarah Ivemy, Jas Young

Shared note: RL 13/7/07: The repeated baptismal names in the PR extracts for children of Thomas and Lydia suggest a sad sequence of losses; burial dates have been allocated to Thomas bap 1772, John bap 1774, and Lydia bap 1775 on this assumption (see notes to burials concerned for further comments). The fact that all three children were buried within a week of each other possibly indicates they each contracted a similar infection.
Christening of a sonThomas Lovelock
December 28, 1772 (Age 29 years)
Text:

1772 Dec 28 Thomas s. Thos & Lydia Lovelock

Note: RL 13/7/07: Also in the IGI - see note to sister Mary's birth.
Christening of a sonJohn Lovelock
January 4, 1774 (Age 31 years)
Text:

1774 Jan 4 John s. Thos. & Lydia Lovelock

Christening of a daughterLydia Lovelock
November 2, 1775 (Age 32 years)
Text:

1775 Nov 2 Lydia d. Thos & Lydia Lovelock

Burial of a sonThomas Lovelock
September 29, 1778 (Age 35 years)
Text:

1778 Sep 29 Thomas Lovelock

Note: RL 13/7/07: Hants Burial Index has same entry.
Burial of a daughterLydia Lovelock
October 3, 1778 (Age 35 years)
Text:

1778 Oct 3 Lydia Lovelock

Note: RL 13/7/07: Hants Burial Index has same entry.
Burial of a sonJohn Lovelock
October 6, 1778 (Age 35 years)
Text:

1778 Oct 6 John Lovelock

Note: RL 13/7/07: Hants Burial Index has same entry.
Birth of a son
#1
Thomas Lovelock
about 1779 (Age 36 years)
Christening of a sonThomas Lovelock
September 30, 1779 (Age 36 years)
Citation details: Baptisms 1626-1837 (Modern Transcript)
Text:

1779 Sep 30 Thomas s. Thos & Lydia Lovelock

Quality of data: secondary evidence
Note: Added RL 29/6/07
Shared note: RL 29/6/07: Probably the relevant record (see note to birth).
Birth of a daughter
#2
Mary Lovelock
September 20, 1781 (Age 38 years)

Source: IGI - LDS
Note: RL 13/7/07: As yet we have no PR entry for Mary's baptism or birth. On the Lovelock website we have …
Christening of a daughterLydia Lovelock
January 1, 1784 (Age 41 years)
Text:

1784 Jan 1 Lydia s. [sic]** Thos & Lydia Lovelock ** Website error or in Modern Transcript? (RL 13/7/07)

Note: RL 13/7/07: Also in the IGI - see note to sister Mary's birth.
Christening of a sonJohn Lovelock
January 2, 1786 (Age 43 years)
Text:

1786 Jan 2 John s. Thos & Lydia Lovelock

Note: RL 13/7/07: Also in the IGI - see note to sister Mary's birth.
Marriage of a childThomas LovelockOlive MattonView this family
November 30, 1807 (Age 64 years)
Citation details: Marriages, provided by Robin Lovelock, from the Hampshire Records Office
Text:

1807 Nov 30 Thomas Lovelock of this parish and Olive Matton of the same were married in this Church by Banns this 30th Day of November in the year One Thousand Eight Hundred and Seven By me Thos Watkins, Curate. Signed Thos Lovelock, Olive Matton made her mark. In the Prefence of John Flight. The above marriage is also listed in Phillimore's Marriage Index for Winchester St Thomas, viewed at HRO. From Robert Sterry: Pallot's Marriage Index has the following item for Winchester St Thomas: 1801 Nov 30 Thomas Lovelock & Olive Matton (Boyd's has same detail but for 1807)

Quality of data: primary evidence
Marriage of a childAaron Atwood(s)Lydia LovelockView this family
May 23, 1811 (Age 68 years)
Text:

1811 May 23 Lydia Lovelock from Twyford and Aaron Atwoods from Twyford. Wit: Thos Lovelock, Mary Lovelock

Note: RL 13/7/07: See general note to Lydia's sister Mary b 1781 for speculation concerning whether she or another Mary L was the Witness named in the marriage entry - and the possible relevance of this.
Shared note: RL 13/7/07: See general note to Lydia's sister Mary b 1781 for speculation concerning whether she or another Mary L was the Witness named in the marriage entry - and the possible relevance of this in terms of link(s) between the Hants-to-Hereford and Compton trees.
Burial of a wifeLydia Carter
November 21, 1820 (Age 77 years)
Text:

1820 Nov 21 Lydia Lovelock at Brambridge in Parish of Twyford 80

Note: Hampshire Burial Index also records the event: 1820 Nov 21 Lydia Lovelock 80.
Deathyes

Burial February 18, 1827 (Age 84 years)
Text:

1827 Feb 18 Thomas Lovelock at Broom Hill in Parish of Otterbourn 83

Note: RL 13/7/07: Given that the heading to the extracted Twyford Burials on the Lovelock website reads "Twyford Burials 1626-1852 (Modern Transcript) Also MIs.", and that BroomHill is stated as being in the 'Parish of Otterbourn' [sic], it may be that this specific entry is from the MIs. Hampshire Burial Index also records the event: 1827 Feb 18 Thomas Lovelock 83.
Family with Lydia Carter - View this family
himself
wife
Marriage: November 21, 1771Twyford, Winchester, Hampshire, England
13 months
son
1 year
son
22 months
daughter
4 years
son
3 years
daughter
2 years
daughter
Lydia Lovelock
Christening: January 1, 1784 41 45Twyford, Winchester, Hampshire, England
Death: between January 1857 and March 1857
2 years
son
John Lovelock
Christening: January 2, 1786 43 47Twyford, Winchester, Hampshire, England
Death: between April 1859 and June 1859

MarriageTwyford, nr Winchester, Hampshire, Parish Register (Modern transcript)
Text:

1771 Nov 21 Thomas Lovelock, bachelor from Twyford and Lydia Carter, spinster, from Twyford Wit: Sarah Ivemy, Jas Young

BurialTwyford, nr Winchester, Hampshire, Parish Register (Modern transcript)
Text:

1827 Feb 18 Thomas Lovelock at Broom Hill in Parish of Otterbourn 83

Note: RL 13/7/07: Given that the heading to the extracted Twyford Burials on the Lovelock website reads "Twyford Burials 1626-1852 (Modern Transcript) Also MIs.", and that BroomHill is stated as being in the 'Parish of Otterbourn' [sic], it may be that this specific entry is from the MIs. Hampshire Burial Index also records the event: 1827 Feb 18 Thomas Lovelock 83.
SourceRobin Lovelock, updated gedcom 24-Aug-07
Publication: Updated gedcom file provided by Robin Lovelock 24 Aug 2007. Includes contributions from Graham Lovelock
SourceRobin Lovelock & Graham Lovelock: email discussions July 2006/July 2007
Note: Especially exchanges 26/6/07 - 12/7/07 (involving James too).
Birth

Date of birth from stated age at burial.

Marriage

RL 13/7/07: The repeated baptismal names in the PR extracts for children of Thomas and Lydia suggest a sad sequence of losses; burial dates have been allocated to Thomas bap 1772, John bap 1774, and Lydia bap 1775 on this assumption (see notes to burials concerned for further comments). The fact that all three children were buried within a week of each other possibly indicates they each contracted a similar infection.

Burial

RL 13/7/07: Given that the heading to the extracted Twyford Burials on the Lovelock website reads "Twyford Burials 1626-1852 (Modern Transcript) Also MIs.", and that BroomHill is stated as being in the 'Parish of Otterbourn' [sic], it may be that this specific entry is from the MIs. Hampshire Burial Index also records the event: 1827 Feb 18 Thomas Lovelock 83.

Shared note

RL 13/7/07: Twyford extracts on the Lovelock website (mostly PRs from a Modern Transcript, plus IGI and MI entries) indicate that Thomas b abt 1779 - hitherto our progenitor of the Hants-to-Hereford tree - had several siblings. We also have two 1851 census entries (previously included in a general note to Thomas b abt 1779 but now relocated), in one of which a John Lovelock and in the other a Mary Lovelock appear; from their ages etc. these persons seem likely to be a brother and a sister respectively of said Thomas. Following work by Graham L with the website material mentioned above, and discussion with James L, I have added Thomas and Lydia née Carter to the tree as parents of Thomas b abt 1779; also 6 other offspring of the marriage and such additional data on them as we have (including the aforementioned 1851 census entries).

Graham has also constructed the following tree from the overall Twyford extracts on the website. As yet we are unable to connect Thomas b 1743/4 'back' to it. Should further research on the actual PRs in the Hants Record Office enable us to do so, we could possibly add two further generations to the 'top' of the Hants-to-Hereford tree:

Unknown LOVELOCK + Unknown UNKNOWN John LOVELOCK bur 14 Oct 1724 + Anne GATES (bur 29 Aug 1720) m 29 Oct 1706 John LOVELOCK b 12 Dec 1707 Anne LOVELOCK b 4 Feb 1711 + Gilbert BARBER m 14 Feb 1738 Robt LOVELOCK bap 29 Aug 1719, bur 18 Jan 1789 + Mary UNKNOWN bur 18 Jan 1789 (**) William LOVELOCK bur 4 Oct 1740 + Anne WAVES (bur 25 Feb 1772) m 18 Sep 1713 Mary LOVELOCK bap 16 Sep 1714 + John ANNELL m 26 Nov 1733 William LOVELOCK bap 29 Jan 1716 Anne LOVELOCK bap 21 Sep 1719, bur 2 Nov 1724 Thomas LOVELOCK bap 9 Jun 1723, bur 21 Jun 1723 Charity LOVELOCK b 8 Nov 1724 Elizabeth LOVELOCK b 4 Jan 1727 + William HAUKS m 10 Jun 1744 John LOVELOCK b 5 Jan 1730 Stephen LOVELOCK b 22 Jan 1733 Edward LOVELOCK bur 1 Sep 1727 at Bishopstoke + Mary COWPER (bur 16 Aug 1734 at Bishopstoke) m 10 Oct 1718 Edward LOVELOCK bap 15 Dec 1719 at Bishopstoke Mary LOVELOCK bap 23 Nov 1721 at Bishopstoke John LOVELOCK bap 15 Apr 1723 at Bishopstoke

(**) Graham 7/7/07 (to the two separate draft trees): "The obvious disappointment ... ... is that there is no obvious link between the Thomas who married Lydia Carter and the 3 family groups above. I can see one real possibility, which is that the Thomas who married Lydia and, from his declared age at his burial, was born in about 1744, might have been the son of the Robert who was baptised in 1719. We know from the burial entry that Robert had a wife Mary, so a family is a possibility ... ... [but] we do not have baptisms of children of Robert and Mary anywhere else in the county at the right time. There are only 2 other candidates for Thomas' father I think: John (1707) and William (1716). However, there being no marriage data for either they seem less likely than Robert."

Source

Especially exchanges 26/6/07 - 12/7/07 (involving James too).