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Walter John LovelockAge: 66 years18681934

Name
Walter John Lovelock
Given names
Walter John
Surname
Lovelock
Birth about March 1868 23 27
Note: See especially 1/4 Feb 2007 exchange.
Citation details: Birth in 1Q 1868 in Stockbridge RD, ref 2c 86
Text:

Lovelock, John Thomas [sic]

Quality of data: primary evidence
Note: RL 20/6/07: See note to birth entry for discussion of names as recorded.
Christening 8 March 1868
Text:

Despite the GRO record of the birth being in the name of John Thomas the baptism record is in the name of Walter Thomas.

Birth of a brotherWilliam Edward Lovelock
between November 1870 and December 1870 (Age 2 years)
Source: GRO - FreeBMD
Citation details: Birth in 4Q 1870 in Andover RD, ref 2c 194
Quality of data: primary evidence
Note: See especially 1/4 Feb 2007 exchange.
Christening of a brotherWilliam Edward Lovelock
18 December 1870 (Age 2 years)
Birth of a sisterSarah Kate Lovelock
16 May 1873 (Age 5 years)
Note: See especially 1/4 Feb 2007 exchange.
Citation details: Birth in Romsey RD in 2Q 1873, ref 2c 70
Text:

Lovelock, Sarah Kate

Quality of data: primary evidence
Christening of a sisterSarah Kate Lovelock
10 August 1873 (Age 5 years)
Death of a fatherJohn Thomas Lovelock
about December 1873 (Age 5 years)
Source: GRO - FreeBMD
Citation details: Death in 4Q 1873 in Whitchurch (Hants) RD, ref 2c 126
Text:

Lovelock, John (29)

Quality of data: primary evidence
Citation details: email message 14-Jul-06
Quality of data: primary evidence
Marriage of a parentWilliam ButlerSarah Susan PhillisView this family
between January 1876 and March 1876 (Age 7 years)
Source: GRO - FreeBMD
Citation details: Marriage in Winchester RD in 1Q 1876, ref 2c 135
Text:

Butler William Lovelock Sarah Susan I

Quality of data: primary evidence
Citation details: Marriage in Winchester RD in 1Q 1876, ref 2c 135
Text:

Butler, William Winchester 2c 135 Lovelock, Sarah Susan I Winchester 2c 135

Quality of data: primary evidence
Note: RL: Found Sarah L, with a fuzzy second name (which could well be 'Susan') and what looks like an add…
Birth of a half-sisterRose Emma Butler
between October 1877 and December 1877 (Age 9 years)
Citation details: Birth in 4Q 1877 in Winchester RD, ref 2c 95
Text:

Butler, Rose Emma

Quality of data: primary evidence
Note: Added RL 25/6/07
Birth of a half-sisterElizabeth Eliza Butler
between July 1880 and September 1880 (Age 12 years)
Citation details: Birth in 3Q 1880 in Winchester RD, ref 2c 102
Text:

Butler, Elizabeth Eliza

Quality of data: primary evidence
Note: Added RL 25/6/07
Census 1881 (Age 12 years)
Citation details: agreed transcription added RL 27-Jun-07
Quality of data: primary evidence
Note: RL 27/6/07: Replaced a previous transcription - small additions/differences.
Citation details: provided by Robin Lovelock, email message 14-Jul-06
Quality of data: primary evidence
Note: RL 27/6/07: I'm not sure whether we've viewed an image of this entry, so citation quality not claimed as 'Primary'.
Note: Annel Lane, Micheldever, Hampshire, England
Death of a paternal grandfatherJohn Lovelock
about December 1882 (Age 14 years)
Source: GRO - FreeBMD
Citation details: Death in 4Q 1882 in Winchester RD, ref 2c 67
Quality of data: primary evidence
Birth of a half-brotherArthur Charles Butler
between January 1884 and March 1884 (Age 15 years)
Text:

Winchester RD, ref 2c 103

Death of a paternal grandmotherSarah Franklin
between January 1886 and March 1886 (Age 17 years)

Text:

Winchester RD, ref 2c 75 (age 69)

MarriageKatharina KonradtView this family
24 February 1889 (Age 20 years)
Note: GL/RL email exchange 1/4 Feb 2007.
Note: See especially 1/4 Feb 2007 exchange.
Source: GRO - FreeBMD
Citation details: Marriage in Paddington RD in 1Q 1889, ref 1a 48
Text:

Lovelock, Walter Thomas Konradt, Katherina

Quality of data: primary evidence
CensusKatharina KonradtView this family
1891 (Age 22 years)

Citation details: agreed transcription added RL 28-Jun-07
Quality of data: primary evidence
Note: Chislehurst, Kent, England
Death of a maternal grandfatherGeorge Phillis
about March 1892 (Age 24 years)
Citation details: Death in 1Q 1892 in Winchester RD, ref 2c 102
Text:

Phillis, George (77)

Quality of data: primary evidence
Note: Died in same quarter as wife Eliza; we have no info. re. order of deaths.
Death of a maternal grandmotherEliza Pearce
about March 1892 (Age 24 years)
Citation details: Death in 1Q 1892 in Winchester RD, ref 2c 102
Text:

Phillis, Eliza (78)

Quality of data: primary evidence
Note: Died in same quarter as husband George; we have no info. re. order of deaths.
Birth of a daughter
#1
Sapfia Elizabeth Lovelock
7 December 1892 (Age 24 years)
Text:

Lovelock, Saptia Elizabeth

Quality of data: primary evidence
Note: RL 20/6/07: Graham and I agree that this entry is Walter and Katherina's daughter Elizabeth, but we differ over the reading of her first name in the image. See note to birth for more details.
Note: Especially 1/4 Feb 2007.
Text:

Bromley RD, ref 2a 456 (registered in Jan-Mar 1893)

CensusKatharina KonradtView this family
1901 (Age 32 years)

Citation details: agreed transcription added RL 28-Jun-07
Quality of data: primary evidence
Note: 21 Lower Pellipar Road, Woolwich, London, England
Death of a half-sisterRose Emma Butler
between July 1909 and September 1909 (Age 41 years)

Text:

Winchester RD, ref 2c 61 (age 31) (registered in married name of Avery)

Census 1911 (Age 42 years)

Note: 37 St James Place, Plumstead, Kent, England
Marriage of a childAlfred George CrossSapfia Elizabeth LovelockView this family
between April 1917 and June 1917 (Age 49 years)

Text:

Woolwich RD, ref 1d 2065

Note: The bride was recorded as Elizabeth S Lovelock.
Death of a motherSarah Susan Phillis
between January 1927 and March 1927 (Age 58 years)

Text:

Bradfield RD, ref 2c 555 (age 86) (registered as Susan Butler)

Death 3 March 1934 (Age 66 years)

Text:

Woolwich RD, ref 1d 1462 (age 66)

Note: The details of his Will name him as John Thomas otherwise Walter Thomas Lovelock, with Administration granted to his widow Katharina.
Family with parents - View this family
father
mother
Marriage: 25 December 1865Micheldever, Hampshire, England
3 months
elder brother
2 years
himself
3 years
younger brother
William Edward Lovelock
Birth: between November 1870 and December 1870 26 29Barton Stacey, Hampshire, England
Death:
3 years
younger sister
Mother’s family with William Butler - View this family
step-father
mother
Marriage: between January 1876 and March 1876Winchester RD, Winchester, Hampshire, England
2 years
half-sister
Rose Emma Butler
Birth: between October 1877 and December 1877 42 36Micheldever, Hampshire, England
Death: between July 1909 and September 1909
3 years
half-sister
Elizabeth Eliza Butler
Birth: between July 1880 and September 1880 45 39Micheldever, Hampshire, England
Death:
4 years
half-brother
Arthur Charles Butler
Birth: between January 1884 and March 1884 49 43Micheldever, Hampshire, England
Death: between April 1958 and June 1958
Family with Katharina Konradt - View this family
himself
wife
Marriage: 24 February 1889St Mary, Paddington Green, London, England
4 years
daughter

BirthGEDCOM file as uploaded to Lovelock website 5 March 2007; created by James Loveluck and exported from his [Legacy] database.
BirthRobin Lovelock & Graham Lovelock: email discussions July 2006/July 2007
Note: See especially 1/4 Feb 2007 exchange.
BirthBMDIndex (via www.thegenealogist.co.uk)
Citation details: Birth in 1Q 1868 in Stockbridge RD, ref 2c 86
Text:

Lovelock, John Thomas [sic]

Quality of data: primary evidence
Note: RL 20/6/07: See note to birth entry for discussion of names as recorded.
Birth1871 British Census
Birth1881 British Census
Christening'Lovelocks in Hampshire' data on main Lovelock website
Text:

Despite the GRO record of the birth being in the name of John Thomas the baptism record is in the name of Walter Thomas.

CensusGEDCOM file as uploaded to Lovelock website 5 March 2007; created by James Loveluck and exported from his [Legacy] database.
CensusRobin Lovelock & Graham Lovelock: email discussions July 2006/July 2007
Citation details: agreed transcription added RL 27-Jun-07
Quality of data: primary evidence
Note: RL 27/6/07: Replaced a previous transcription - small additions/differences.
Census1881 British Census
Citation details: provided by Robin Lovelock, email message 14-Jul-06
Quality of data: primary evidence
Note: RL 27/6/07: I'm not sure whether we've viewed an image of this entry, so citation quality not claimed as 'Primary'.
MarriageGraham Lovelock
Note: GL/RL email exchange 1/4 Feb 2007.
MarriageRobin Lovelock & Graham Lovelock: email discussions July 2006/July 2007
Note: See especially 1/4 Feb 2007 exchange.
MarriageGRO - FreeBMD
Citation details: Marriage in Paddington RD in 1Q 1889, ref 1a 48
Text:

Lovelock, Walter Thomas Konradt, Katherina

Quality of data: primary evidence
Marriage'Lovelocks in Middlesex' data on main Lovelock website
CensusRobin Lovelock & Graham Lovelock: email discussions July 2006/July 2007
Citation details: agreed transcription added RL 28-Jun-07
Quality of data: primary evidence
Census1891 British Census
Census1901 British Census
CensusRobin Lovelock & Graham Lovelock: email discussions July 2006/July 2007
Citation details: agreed transcription added RL 28-Jun-07
Quality of data: primary evidence
DeathGRO Index of Deaths
Text:

Woolwich RD, ref 1d 1462 (age 66)

DeathNational Probate Calendars data on main Lovelock website
SourceRobin Lovelock, updated gedcom 24-Aug-07
Publication: Updated gedcom file provided by Robin Lovelock 24 Aug 2007. Includes contributions from Graham Lovelock
SourceOriginating email discussion
SourceGEDCOM file as uploaded to Lovelock website 5 March 2007; created by James Loveluck and exported from his [Legacy] database.
Birth

RL 20/6/07: Graham and I had an exchange 1/4 Feb 2007 concerning the marriage and family of Walter L who we had as b 1867/8 Stockbridge [presumably from the 1871 and 1881 entries]. As a result of our explorations {more details below**} we believe the following birth entry is in fact our man: John Thomas L, Stockbridge RD 1Q 1868, 2c 86. He's entered as 'Walter Thomas' in the GRO record of his 1889 marriage [see also 1891 and 1901 census extracts - although he's just 'Walter' in both].

** Walter's stated place of birth in the 1891 and 1901 census extracts (with his wife and [in 1901] daughter), which Graham located, was Micheldever (like his brother George); whereas in the 1871 (Romsey) and 1881 (Annel Lane, Micheldever) entries (with his parents and his [widowed and remarried] mother respectively), he's recorded as born Stockbridge. Apart from this everything else we have is consistent with the 1Q 1868 John Thomas birth registration being our Walter (Thomas). Given the familiar difficulties around 'actual' birthplaces where we have GRO and census (especially 'varying' census) data but no PR record, I decided to re-check BMDIndex for Walter and his siblings. In addition, doubting from local knowledge that Micheldever and Stockbridge would be in the same RD, I turned to Genuki. Stockbridge, somewhat to my surprise, turns out to have been 'its own' RD until 1932; Micheldever, as one would expect, was in Winchester RD all the while. Perhaps the family moved when Walter was a babe-in-arms, in which case as far as he would have been concerned Micheldever was where he'd 'always' lived as a boy ...... Regarding the 'variation' in his names, perhaps the parents changed their minds about what to call him after registering the child. It doesn't seem to have been simply his own later preference to be 'Walter', since he was entered as 'Walter' both in the 1871 (aged 3) and the 1881 (aged 13) - so neither was it probably just his mother's idea.

Birth

See especially 1/4 Feb 2007 exchange.

Birth

RL 20/6/07: See note to birth entry for discussion of names as recorded.

Census

Annel Lane, Micheldever, Hampshire, England RG11 1229 F43 P29

William Butler;Head;M;45;Farm Labr;Hants, Micheldever Susan Butler;Wife;M;40;;Hants, N Waltham George Lovelock;Son;U;15;Farm Labr;Hants, Micheldever Walter Lovelock;Son;;13;Farm Labr;Hants, Stockbridge William Lovelock;Son;;10;Scholar;Hants, Barton Stacey Kate Lovelock;Daur;;7;Scholar;Hants, Romsey Rose Butler;Daur;;3;Scholar;Hants, Micheldever Elizabeth Butler;Daur;6m;;Hants, Micheldever

Census

RL 27/6/07: Replaced a previous transcription - small additions/differences.

Census

RL 27/6/07: I'm not sure whether we've viewed an image of this entry, so citation quality not claimed as 'Primary'.

Marriage

GL/RL email exchange 1/4 Feb 2007.

Marriage

See especially 1/4 Feb 2007 exchange.

Census

Chislehurst, Kent, England 23 Balmoral Grove RG12 632 F129 P15

John Slade;Head;W;37;Police Constable;Berks, Brightwaltham Amy Slade;Sister;S [sic];38;Housekeeper;Berks, Brightwaltham Walter Lovelock;Head;M;24;Gardener;Hants, Micheldever Kathleen Lovelock;Wife;25;;Germany, Kreusnach

Census

21 Lower Pellipar Road, Woolwich, London, England RG13 567 F124 P42

Walter Lovelock;Head;M;35;Arsenal Labourer;Hants, Mitcheldever Kathe Lovelock;Wife;M;36;;Germany Elizabeth Lovelock;Daur;;8;;Kent, Chislehurst

Census

37 St James Place, Plumstead, Kent, England RG14 PN2887 RG78 PN99 RD30 SD3 ED5 SN188

Walter Lovelock;Head;47;Mechanic's Labourer Royal Arsenal Woolwich;Romsey, Hants Kate Lovelock;Wife, married 22 years;47;;Germany German Elizabeth Lovelock;Daur;18;;Chislehurst, Kent

Death

The details of his Will name him as John Thomas otherwise Walter Thomas Lovelock, with Administration granted to his widow Katharina.

Shared note

RL 20/6/07: Graham and I had an exchange 1/4 Feb 2007 conce rning Walter's marriage and family. In the course of this I identified additional birth details for Walter and his 3 known siblings. See notes to Walter's birth.