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Alice Winder1874–

Name: Alice Winder

Given names: Alice

Surname: Winder

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Birth	about 1874 35 28 St George in The East, Middlesex, England Shared note: Birth date and place from 1881 census data
Birth of a brother	Mark Winder about 1877 (Age 3 years) Canning Town, Essex, England Shared note: Birth date and place from 1881 census data
Birth of a sister	Annie Winder about 1881 (Age 7 years) Canning Town, Essex, England Shared note: Birth date and place from 1881 census data
Census	1881 (Age 7 years) Note: 1 Milson Place, Lambeth, Surrey, England 1 Milson Place, Lambeth, Surrey, England RG11 0606 F141 P47 Philip WINDER;Head;42;Labourer;Sussex, England Charlotte WINDER;Wife;35;;West Grafton, Wilts Alice WINDER;Daur;7;;St Georges In The East Mark WINDER;Son;4;;Canning Town, W Ham Annie WINDER;Daur;2mos;;Canning Town W Ham Ann BREWER;Visitor;30;;West Grafton, Wilts
Birth of a brother	Henry George Winder between April 1884 and June 1884 (Age 10 years) Battersea, London, England
Death of a maternal grandfather	George Lovelock between October 1884 and December 1884 (Age 10 years)
Burial of a maternal grandfather	George Lovelock 9 October 1884 (Age 10 years) East Grafton, Wiltshire, England
Birth of a brother	Francis Winder between October 1886 and December 1886 (Age 12 years) Battersea, Surrey, England
Marriage of parents	Phillip Winder — Charlotte Lovelock — View this family Type: Religious marriage 6 April 1896 (Age 22 years) St Helen, Kensington, London, England Shared note: Graham Lovelock email 6 Nov 2004 I suspect that Charlotte and Philip married in the Lambeth RD in th… Graham Lovelock email 6 Nov 2004 I suspect that Charlotte and Philip married in the Lambeth RD in the March quarter of 1874. Certainly a Charlotte did, as you will find on FreeBMD, but for once there are only three names recorded for the Register page. The 1874 images are not available yet, so can't get any further with that. Graham Lovelock note 13 May 2009: 1874 data now available shows that the Lambeth marriage was not of Charlotte Lovelock and Philip Winder. Robert Sterry email message 7 Nov 2004 I decided to also check FreeBMD for that Lovelock-Winder marriage and came across this unexpected find: Marriages Jun 1896 Curtis Alfred Kensington 1a 210Lovelock Lovelock Charlotte Kensington 1a 210 Treble Kate Kensington 1a 210 Winder Philip Kensington 1a 210 What do you make of that? I wondered if in fact they had married previously in perhaps some non-conformist church and then later married in the C of E for some reason. I checked Ancestral Trails for any such precedents at this time. But the requirement for Catholics and Protestant dissenters to be married in the Anglican church (as well as their own if they wished to be legal) ended in 1837. If they weren't legally married, this might of course affect inheritance rights. Perhaps they really didn't marry until 1896? Graham L on 23 April 2014: Marriage Register imagery at Ancestry confirms the 1896 marriage, but provides no explanation for why they married then.
Census	1901 (Age 27 years) Note: Ham St, Ham, Surrey, England Ham St, Ham, Surrey, England RG13 665 F174 P29 Herbert W Nice;Head;24;Grocer Shopkeeper;Canning Town, Essex Alice Nice;Wife;25;;Wapping, Essex Mary A Nice;Mother, wid;56;;Allthorne, Essex William Hunt;Head (sic);41;Grocer Shopkeeper;Wantage, Berks Sarah A Hunt;Wife;36;;West Grafton, Wilts Ivy S B Hunt;Daur;5;;Battersea, London
Death of a maternal grandmother	Eliza Fisher 1904 (Age 30 years) Hungerford RD, Hungerford, Berkshire, England
Death of a father	Phillip Winder between April 1904 and June 1904 (Age 30 years)
Census	1911 (Age 37 years) Note: 168 Earlsfield Rd, Wandsworth, London, England 168 Earlsfield Rd, Wandsworth, London, England RG14 PN2383 RG78 PN79 RD26 SD6 ED14 SN216 Charlotte Winder;Head, Widow;64;;West Grafton, Wilts Francis Winder;Son;24;Cap Cutter;Battersea, Surrey Alice Nice;Visitor;37;;Wapping, Essex Lilian Upton;Visitor;23;Domestic Servant;Wimbledon, Surrey
Death of a mother	Charlotte Lovelock between April 1920 and June 1920 (Age 46 years) Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
Death of a brother	Henry George Winder between July 1949 and September 1949 (Age 75 years)
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father	Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Charlotte Lovelock Alice Winder Mark Winder Annie Winder Henry George Winder Francis Winder Phillip Winder Birth: between 1839 and 1840 — Isfield, Sussex, England Death: between April 1904 and June 1904
mother	Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Phillip Winder Alice Winder Mark Winder Annie Winder Henry George Winder Francis Winder Family with spouse Unknown Unknown Sarah Ann Lovelock Charlotte Lovelock Birth: about 1846 31 17 — West Grafton, Wiltshire, England Death: between April 1920 and June 1920 — Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
	Marriage: 6 April 1896 — St Helen, Kensington, London, England
-21 years herself	Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Alice Winder Birth: about 1874 35 28 — St George in The East, Middlesex, England Death:
4 years younger brother	Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Mark Winder Birth: about 1877 38 31 — Canning Town, Essex, England Death:
5 years younger sister	Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Annie Winder Birth: about 1881 42 35 — Canning Town, Essex, England Death:
4 years younger brother	Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Rosa Maud Mary Jessett Vera Alice Winder Muriel Rosa Winder Stanley George Winder Henry George Winder Birth: between April 1884 and June 1884 45 38 — Battersea, London, England Death: between July 1949 and September 1949
3 years younger brother	Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Francis Winder Birth: between October 1886 and December 1886 47 40 — Battersea, Surrey, England Death:

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step-father	Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Charlotte Lovelock Sarah Ann Lovelock Unknown Unknown Birth: Death:
mother	Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Phillip Winder Alice Winder Mark Winder Annie Winder Henry George Winder Francis Winder Family with spouse Unknown Unknown Sarah Ann Lovelock Charlotte Lovelock Birth: about 1846 31 17 — West Grafton, Wiltshire, England Death: between April 1920 and June 1920 — Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
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half-sister	Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse William Hunt Ivy Serena Beatrice Hunt Leslie Ivor Philip Hunt Sarah Ann Lovelock Birth: between January 1865 and March 1865 19 — West Grafton, Wiltshire, England Death:

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Birth View	Birth date and place from 1881 census data
Census	1 Milson Place, Lambeth, Surrey, England RG11 0606 F141 P47 Philip WINDER;Head;42;Labourer;Sussex, England Charlotte WINDER;Wife;35;;West Grafton, Wilts Alice WINDER;Daur;7;;St Georges In The East Mark WINDER;Son;4;;Canning Town, W Ham Annie WINDER;Daur;2mos;;Canning Town W Ham Ann BREWER;Visitor;30;;West Grafton, Wilts
Census	Ham St, Ham, Surrey, England RG13 665 F174 P29 Herbert W Nice;Head;24;Grocer Shopkeeper;Canning Town, Essex Alice Nice;Wife;25;;Wapping, Essex Mary A Nice;Mother, wid;56;;Allthorne, Essex William Hunt;Head (sic);41;Grocer Shopkeeper;Wantage, Berks Sarah A Hunt;Wife;36;;West Grafton, Wilts Ivy S B Hunt;Daur;5;;Battersea, London
Census	168 Earlsfield Rd, Wandsworth, London, England RG14 PN2383 RG78 PN79 RD26 SD6 ED14 SN216 Charlotte Winder;Head, Widow;64;;West Grafton, Wilts Francis Winder;Son;24;Cap Cutter;Battersea, Surrey Alice Nice;Visitor;37;;Wapping, Essex Lilian Upton;Visitor;23;Domestic Servant;Wimbledon, Surrey