The Lieflock Line, Wootton Rivers and Tangley Trees

West Grafton, Great Bedwyn, Wiltshire, England RG10 1254 F60 P4

George Lovelock;Head;52;Ag Lab;West Grafton, Wilts. Eliza Lovelock;Wife;41;;West Grafton, Wilts. Ann Lovelock;Daur;20;;West Grafton, Wilts. Thomas Lovelock;Son;12;Ploughboy;West Grafton, Wilts. Daniel Lovelock;Son;9;Scholar;West Grafton, Wilts. Fanny Lovelock;Daur;5;Scholar;West Grafton, Wilts. Charles Lovelock;Son;2;;West Grafton, Wilts. Sarah Ann Lovelock;Gd-daur;6;daughter's daughter Illegitimate;West Grafton, Wilts. William Lovelock;Gd-son;1;Daughter's Son Illegitimate;West Grafton, Wilts. To be called Elisha;Son;1 day;George Lovelock's son born 2 April 2 PM;West Grafton, Wilts.

Notes by Graham Lovelock: I did eventually find Daniel and Martha in 1901 - under the name of Lobelock! They were somewhere in the St John enumeration district in London, ages 38 and 37 respectively, together with Hurbert aged 4. Places of birth WG, Burbage, and Lavender Hill, with Daniel's occupation recorded as Brewer's Assistant.

Graham Lovelock 20-Nov-06: Ancestry has them correctly listed as Lovelocks, although I can see how the 1901 transcribers could read the v as a b. The important facts that emerge from the image are not only confirmation that this child is Herbert G not Herbert D (so he isn't a Herbert Daniel), but also that he is the nephew and not the son of Daniel and Martha.

The question that then of course occurs is, if he was Daniel's nephew, whose son was he? Setting aside the possibility of the lad being illegitimate, Daniel had four brothers, any of which might perhaps be the father: George (his half-brother) b 1841, for whom we have no more details in the Lieflock Line; Thomas - the father of Herbert Daniel, and therefore ruled out as being in the wrong place at the right time; Charles b 1868, for whom we also have no more details; and Elijah b 1871, of whom yet again we have no more details.

We can rule out Elijah as he was still single and living with his mother at West Grafton in 1901.

We can possibly rule out George, who does not appear in the 1871 or 1881 Returns. Free BMD has no death entry that looks remotely possible, so perhaps he emigrated? There is a worrying 1891 entry, though. I refer to the entry for George Lovelock and family at Marten St, Great Bedwyn. We have this George recorded as the son of William L and Lucy (Hillman) in the Lieflock Line. But the entry actually records him as George F Lovelock, aged 54, born Grafton. No difficulty reading the entry. William and Lucy's son was baptised (as George only) on 27 Dec 1835, so he should have been 55 in 1891. I think we have assumed correctly that George got his age wrong by a year, rather than by 4 years if he was in fact the son of George and Eliza, but I've no explanation for the 'F'.

Which just leaves Charles. As it happens Charles was a lodger in Battersea with his sister Charlotte and her husband Phillip Winder and family. Battersea is in the Wandsworth RD. In 4Q 1895 a Charles L married in Wandsworth - ref 1d 1038. The bride was either Alice Jane Harris or Bertha I Merryweather, but I haven't been able to identify which. However, an Alice Lovelock was born and died in 2Q 1896 in Wandsworth, refs 1d 575 and 1d 312 respectively, which might be the daughter of Charles and Alice.

According to Ancestry there was no Lovelock family presence in Wandsworth in 1891 (only a single person), so no justifiable speculation possible on whose child Alice might have been if not Charles'. Alas, I can't find Charles and Alice in 1901, either. Free BMD has no relevant deaths. There was the death of an Alice Jane in Southwark in 1Q 1905, but she was aged 11, and is probably the one born in 3Q 1893 in Lambeth, and was born before Charles probably married anyway. There was in 1901 an Alice 'Visiting' a house in Southfields (again in Wandsworth), aged 37, but, alas, single.

There was a Charles/Bertha L family in 1901, but he was from Shipton Moyne, and they were the family in Derby.

So the best I can offer is that Charles, the son of George L and Eliza Fisher (2) may have married in Wandsworth and may have been the father of Hubert George who was with his uncle Daniel in 1901 (but disguised as Hurbert G)!

I ought not to sign off without picking up the illegitimacy possibility. Hubert could have been the son of Daniel's sister Susannah, I suppose, as she had made her way to Kensington by 1881, but she would have been 40 years old in 1895 so an unlikely, although clearly not impossible, candidate for unmarried motherhood.

James Loveluck 19-Jan-07: As to who were his parents, I agree that Charles is a likely candidate. However, another possible explanation is that, at time of the 1901 census, the Herbert Lovelock who was with Thomas & Kate L in Battersea and the one who was with Daniel & Martha L in St John (?) enumeration district were one and the same person! Did it not happen occasionally that a person was recorded at two different addresses, because they changed houses between two subsequent days of the census? Both families were living in London, although I'm not sure how close they were (St John's enumeration district could be in several places - there was a St Margaret & St John sub-registration district in the St George Hannover Square district, where Daniel and Martha were married). I realise that there is a slight difference in the recorded ages (3 and 4) and birthplace (Lavender Hill, Wandsworth versus Hammersmith) but these are not outside the usual error bounds.

You mention the 1891 census entry for George L and family at Marten St, Gt Bedwyn, and the possibility that this George is the son of George & Eliza (1). This family also appears in the 1881 census, and George is recorded without the 'F' and age 44, consistent with the 1891 record and the fact that he was born around 1835 rather than 1841. So I feel fairly confident about identifying this George as the son of William & Lucy.

Graham Lovelock 23-Jan-07: I don't think anyone who has spent a bit of time living in London, especially when it wasn't the ghastly sprawl it is now, would confuse Lavender Hill with Hammersmith, or indeed think the former was located in the latter. For one thing they are on opposite sides of the river, and that was a much more significant matter over 100 years ago. Thus I don't think the two 1901 boys are one and the same.

Re-examining the St John entry, the full address is Orchard St, Peabody Buildings, 1, K Block, St John Parish, St Matthews Ecclesiastical Parish, No 2 Horseferry Ward, City of Westminster, which is a fairly accurate location for you!

I have one confession to make here though - the name of Daniel's nephew is actually written as Hurbert G Lovelock. It doesn't help to dispel confusion absolutely, but I'm still sure that Daniel's nephew is the Hubert G b 1897 in Wandsworth RD.

27K Peabody Buildings, Orchard Street, St John the Evangelist, Westminster, London, England RG12 80 F94 P33

Daniel Lovelock;Head;28;Brewers Labourer;West Grafton, Wilts Martha S Lovelock;Wife;27;;Burbage, Wilts

1 K Block, Peabody Bldgs, Orchard Street, Westminster, London, England RG13 92 F54 P26

Daniel Lovelock;Head;38;Brewers Assistant;West Grafton, Wilts Martha L Lovelock;Wife;37;;Burbage, Wilts Hurbert (sic) G Lovelock;Nephew;4;;Lavender Hill, London

Notes by Graham Lovelock: I did eventually find Daniel and Martha in 1901 - under the name of Lobelock! They were somewhere in the St John enumeration district in London, ages 38 and 37 respectively, together with Herbert aged 4. Places of birth WG, Burbage, and Lavender Hill, with Daniel's occupation recorded as Brewer's Assistant.

Graham Lovelock 20-Nov-06: Ancestry has them correctly listed as Lovelocks, although I can see how the 1901 transcribers could read the v as a b. The important facts that emerge from the image are not only confirmation that this child is Hurbert G not Herbert D (so he isn't a Herbert Daniel), but also that he is the nephew and not the son of Daniel and Martha.

Graham Lovelock 01-Dec-14: Daniel's nephew is the Hubert George Lovelock whose birth was registered in the Wandsworth RD in Jan-Mar 1897 (ref 1d 574). He does not seem to be identifiable in any on-line source after the 1911 Census entry. Whose child he was is also problematical. All of Daniel's sisters were married before 1897, so they could not be the mother. Brother Thomas had a son of his own in 1897 so can be ruled out. Brother Elijah was probably living in Wiltshire in 1897, and in any case does not seem to have married until 1906. That leaves only brother Charles as the father. Charles was in Battersea in 1891, still single, so may well be the man who married Alice Jane Harris in Wandsworth RD in Oct-Dec 1895 (ref 1d 1038). Neither Charles nor Alice Jane seems to be identifiable in any on-line source after the marriage entry.

Graham Lovelock 03-Jul-19: The GRO Online Index of Births reveals that Hubert's mother's maiden name was Harris, and therefore it seems probable that Charles and Alice Jane were the parents.

10K Peabody Buildings, Westminster, London, England RG14 PN483 RG78 PN16 RD5 SD3 ED18 SN369

Daniel Lovelock;Head;47;Brewers Labourer;Grafton, Wilts Martha Lovelock;Wife, married 26 years;47;;Burbage, Wilts George Lovelock;Nephew;14;Office Boy;Lavender Hill, London

22 Great St Andrew Street, St Giles in the Fields and St George Bloomsbury, St Giles RD, Middlesex, England

Thomas Lovelock (Widower);62y 3m;Grafton, Wiltshire;Publican Daniel Lovelock;52y 2m;Grafton, Wiltshire;Home Duties Martha Sopphia (sic) Lovelock;57y 7m;Burbage, Wiltshire;Home Duties Francis Popejoy;45y 4m;Burbage, Wiltshire;Labourer Emily Popejoy;44y;Burbage, Wiltshire;At Home Albert Edward Popejoy;18y 11m;Pimlico, London;Fitter's Mate Arthur James Popejoy;13y 9m;Westminster, London Francis Alfred Popejoy;7y 10m;Battersea, London