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Thomas Lovelock1817

Name
Thomas Lovelock
Given names
Thomas
Surname
Lovelock
Birth about 1817 38 29

Christening 2 November 1817
Citation details: Baptisms, provided by Robin Lovelock, from the Hampshire Records Office
Text:

1817 Nov 2 Thomas son of Thomas & Olive Lovelock Abode in St Georges Street Laborer

Quality of data: primary evidence
Burial of a sisterSarah Lovelock
12 February 1818 (Age 13 months)
Citation details: Burials, provided by Robin Lovelock, from the Hampshire Records Office
Text:

1818 Feb 12 Sarah Lovelock St Georges St 3yrs 6 mths Also in Hampshire Burial Index (provided by Robert Sterry): 1818 Feb 12 Sarah Lovelock 3

Quality of data: primary evidence
Death of a paternal grandmotherLydia Carter
1820 (Age 3 years)

Christening of a sisterMary Lovelock
24 September 1820 (Age 3 years)
Citation details: Baptisms, provided by Robin Lovelock, from the Hampshire Records Office
Text:

1820 Sept 24 Mary Dtr of Thomas & Olive Lovelock St George's St Labourer

Quality of data: primary evidence
Burial of a paternal grandmotherLydia Carter
21 November 1820 (Age 3 years)
Text:

1820 Nov 21 Lydia Lovelock at Brambridge in Parish of Twyford 80

Note: Hampshire Burial Index also records the event: 1820 Nov 21 Lydia Lovelock 80.
Death of a paternal grandfatherThomas Lovelock
1827 (Age 10 years)

Burial of a paternal grandfatherThomas Lovelock
18 February 1827 (Age 10 years)
Text:

1827 Feb 18 Thomas Lovelock at Broom Hill in Parish of Otterbourn 83

Note: RL 13/7/07: Given that the heading to the extracted Twyford Burials on the Lovelock website reads "Twyford Burials 1626-1852 (Modern Transcript) Also MIs.", and that BroomHill is stated as being in the 'Parish of Otterbourn' [sic], it may be that this specific entry is from the MIs. Hampshire Burial Index also records the event: 1827 Feb 18 Thomas Lovelock 83.
Burial of a motherOlive Matton
17 June 1833 (Age 16 years)
Citation details: Burials, provided by Robin Lovelock, from the Hampshire Records Office
Text:

1833 June 17 Olive Lovelock wife of Thomas Lovelock Saint Georges Street 44 years Also in Hampshire Burial Index (provided by Robert Sterry): 1833 Jun 17 Olive Lovelock 44.

Quality of data: primary evidence
Census 1851 (Age 34 years)

Citation details: agreed transcription added RL 25-Jun-07
Quality of data: primary evidence
Note: 28 St Georges Street, St Thomas, Winchester, Hampshire, England
Death of a fatherThomas Lovelock
about September 1854 (Age 37 years)
Source: GRO - FreeBMD
Citation details: Death in 3Q 1854 in Winchester RD, ref 2c 64
Quality of data: primary evidence
Shared note: RL 19/3/07: GRO entry is believed to refer to this Thomas L, who we've captured in 1841 and 1851 but can't locate in later censuses. [However, see notes to son Thomas bap 1817.]
Death of a brotherGeorge Lovelock
between July 1867 and September 1867 (Age 50 years)

Source: GRO - FreeBMD
Text:

Winchester RD, ref 2c 47

Death of a brotherJohn Lovelock
about December 1882 (Age 65 years)
Source: GRO - FreeBMD
Citation details: Death in 4Q 1882 in Winchester RD, ref 2c 67
Quality of data: primary evidence
Death of a sisterMary Lovelock
between January 1897 and March 1897 (Age 80 years)

Text:

Winchester RD, ref 2c 78 (age 76)

Deathyes

Family with parents - View this family
father
mother
Marriage: 30 November 1807St Thomas, Winchester, Hampshire, England
19 months
elder brother
14 months
elder brother
Thomas Lovelock
Christening: 30 July 1810 31 22St Thomas, Winchester, Hampshire, England
Death: 1810
17 months
elder brother
4 years
elder sister
Sarah Lovelock
Christening: 18 September 1814 35 26St Thomas, Winchester, Hampshire, England
Death:
3 years
himself
4 years
younger sister

ChristeningSt Thomas, Winchester, Parish Register
Citation details: Baptisms, provided by Robin Lovelock, from the Hampshire Records Office
Text:

1817 Nov 2 Thomas son of Thomas & Olive Lovelock Abode in St Georges Street Laborer

Quality of data: primary evidence
ChristeningGEDCOM file as uploaded to Lovelock website 5 March 2007; created by James Loveluck and exported from his [Legacy] database.
CensusRobin Lovelock & Graham Lovelock: email discussions July 2006/July 2007
Citation details: agreed transcription added RL 25-Jun-07
Quality of data: primary evidence
Census1851 British Census
SourceRobin Lovelock, updated gedcom 24-Aug-07
Publication: Updated gedcom file provided by Robin Lovelock 24 Aug 2007. Includes contributions from Graham Lovelock
SourceOriginating email discussion
SourceGEDCOM file as uploaded to Lovelock website 5 March 2007; created by James Loveluck and exported from his [Legacy] database.
SourceRobin Lovelock & Graham Lovelock: email discussions July 2006/July 2007
Citation details: agreed transcription (of 1881 entry) added RL 27-Jun-07
Quality of data: primary evidence
Source1881 British Census
Note: RL 27/6/07: I'm not sure whether we've viewed an image of this entry, so citation quality not claimed as 'Primary'.
Census

28 St Georges Street, St Thomas, Winchester, Hampshire, England HO107 1674 F33 P27

Walter household (No Lovelocks) .....

Hannah Wake;Head;W;69;Pauper formerly Laundress;Hampshire, Kingsclere Mary Lovelock;Servant;U;30;Washerwoman & Servant;Hampshire, Winchester Maria Raymond;Visitor;;10;Scholar;Hampshire, Winchester Emma Beale;Visitor;;4;Scholar;Hampshire, Winchester Walter Lovelock;Son;;2;;Hampshire, Winchester

.....

Head household (No Lovelocks .....

James Southwell;Head;M;28;Labourer (Bricklayer);Hampshire, Wyke [sic] Caroline Southwell;Wife;M;29;Laundress;Somersetshire, Frome Thomas Lovelock;Visitor;U;35;Labourer (Bricklayer);Hampshire, Winchester

There appear to have been 4 separate households living at 28 St Georges Street, only two of which included Lovelocks.

Shared note

RL 27/6/07: Could <i><u>possibly</i></u> be the Thomas L ag ed 68 [sic - i.e. implies born 1812/13], born 'Winchester' in the following 1881 entry, (Ancestry and LDS transcriptions){*}:

Newington, Surrey St Saviours Union Infirmary, Westmoreland Road RG11 0550 F28 P23

Among a list of pauper inmates: Thomas Lovelock;Pauper;W;68;General Labourer;Hampshire, Winchester

<i>Possibly Thomas, bap 1817, son of Thomas L and Olive Matton </i>

He was in Winchester, unmarried, in 1851 (aged 35, in Southwell household), but we have not (otherwise) located him in subsequent censuses; nor do we have any data concerning a possible marriage or his death. We do have a Thomas L death in Winchester RD apart from those of Olive's husband and their son (bap and bur 1810) - 4Q 1863 2c 59. This is presently allocated to Thomas son of Thomas L and Mary Childs (bap 10 Aug 1788), who m'd Martha Unknown (Compton tree) and who appears with inconsistent ages in 1841 (52), 1851 (65) and 1861 (73), but he 'should' have been 93 in 1881. Thomas in the 1881 (Newington/"Southwark" entry) being shown as 68 suggests he's probably <i>neither</i> of the Thomas sons of Thomas and Olive. However, the age transcribed as 68 <i>could</i> {I've not viewed an image} be 63; alternatively it <i>could</i> just possibly be 93, in which case this <i>could</i> be Thomas b 1788 (currently progenitor of the Compton tree), with the 1863 death (see above) being that of this Thomas (i.e. bap 1817). However, there's much less of an age discrepancy if Thomas bap 1817 married someone, some time, somewhere and ended up in Newington Infirmary!

{*} I've sometimes referred to the above 1881 entry loosely (and misleadingly?) as "Thomas in <i><u>Southwark</i></u> 1881". And in fact Genuki reports: NEWINGTON REGISTRATION DISTRICT Registration County : London. Created : 1.7.1837 (sometimes "St. Mary Newington" in early listings). Abolished : 1.1.1870 (succeeded by St. Saviour Southwark district). The latter was in turn: Abolished : 1.4.1901 (succeeded by Southwark district).

We have, however, captured a Thomas L b Winchester (abt 1801/2) in Southwark (in 1851). GL 16/3/07: "38 Mint Street, ... ... some kind of lodging house, with 45 lodgers. Thomas was recorded as 49 ..., a Widower, a Labourer born in Winchester. Ref RG10 602 F30 P53." RL: "Presumably not the same man, as we assume we've captured Thomas bap Nov 1817 in Winchester in 1851 (albeit with stated age 35) - unless there's an error with one or other age!"

Source

RL 27/6/07: I'm not sure whether we've viewed an image of this entry, so citation quality not claimed as 'Primary'.