Walter John LovelockAge: 66 years1868–1934
- Name
- Walter John Lovelock
- Given names
- Walter John
- Surname
- Lovelock
Birth | about March 1868 23 27 Note: See especially 1/4 Feb 2007 exchange.
Citation details: Birth in 1Q 1868 in Stockbridge RD, ref 2c 86 Text: Lovelock, John Thomas [sic] Quality of data: primary evidence Note: RL 20/6/07: See note to birth entry for discussion of names as recorded.
Source: 1871 British Census Source: 1881 British Census |
Christening | 8 March 1868 Text: Despite the GRO record of the birth being in the name of John Thomas the baptism record is in the name of Walter Thomas. |
Birth of a brother | William Edward Lovelock between November 1870 and December 1870 (Age 2 years) Source: GRO - FreeBMD Citation details: Birth in 4Q 1870 in Andover RD, ref 2c 194 Quality of data: primary evidence Note: See especially 1/4 Feb 2007 exchange.
Source: 1871 British Census Source: 1881 British Census |
Christening of a brother | William Edward Lovelock 18 December 1870 (Age 2 years) |
Birth of a sister | Sarah Kate Lovelock 16 May 1873 (Age 5 years) Note: See especially 1/4 Feb 2007 exchange.
Citation details: Birth in Romsey RD in 2Q 1873, ref 2c 70 Text: Lovelock, Sarah Kate Quality of data: primary evidence Source: 1881 British Census |
Christening of a sister | Sarah Kate Lovelock 10 August 1873 (Age 5 years) |
Death of a father | John Thomas Lovelock about December 1873 (Age 5 years) Source: GRO - FreeBMD Citation details: Death in 4Q 1873 in Whitchurch (Hants) RD, ref 2c 126 Text: Lovelock, John (29) Quality of data: primary evidence Source: Robin Lovelock (email exchanges) Citation details: email message 14-Jul-06 Quality of data: primary evidence |
Marriage of a parent | William Butler — Sarah Susan Phillis — View this family between January 1876 and March 1876 (Age 7 years) Source: GRO - FreeBMD Citation details: Marriage in Winchester RD in 1Q 1876, ref 2c 135 Text: Butler William Lovelock Sarah Susan I Quality of data: primary evidence |
Birth of a half-sister | Rose Emma Butler between October 1877 and December 1877 (Age 9 years) Source: 1881 British Census Citation details: Birth in 4Q 1877 in Winchester RD, ref 2c 95 Text: Butler, Rose Emma Quality of data: primary evidence Note: Added RL 25/6/07
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Birth of a half-sister | Elizabeth Eliza Butler between July 1880 and September 1880 (Age 12 years) Source: 1881 British Census Citation details: Birth in 3Q 1880 in Winchester RD, ref 2c 102 Text: Butler, Elizabeth Eliza Quality of data: primary evidence Note: Added RL 25/6/07
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Census | 1881 (Age 12 years) Citation details: agreed transcription added RL 27-Jun-07 Quality of data: primary evidence Note: RL 27/6/07: Replaced a previous transcription - small additions/differences.
Source: 1881 British Census Citation details: provided by Robin Lovelock, email message 14-Jul-06 Quality of data: primary evidence Note: RL 27/6/07: I'm not sure whether we've viewed an image of this entry, so citation quality not claimed as 'Primary'.
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Death of a paternal grandfather | John Lovelock about December 1882 (Age 14 years) Source: GRO - FreeBMD Citation details: Death in 4Q 1882 in Winchester RD, ref 2c 67 Quality of data: primary evidence |
Birth of a half-brother | Arthur Charles Butler between January 1884 and March 1884 (Age 15 years) Text: Winchester RD, ref 2c 103 |
Death of a paternal grandmother | Sarah Franklin between January 1886 and March 1886 (Age 17 years) Source: GRO Index of Deaths Text: Winchester RD, ref 2c 75 (age 69) |
Marriage | Katharina Konradt — View this family 24 February 1889 (Age 20 years) Source: Graham Lovelock Note: GL/RL email exchange 1/4 Feb 2007.
Note: See especially 1/4 Feb 2007 exchange.
Source: GRO - FreeBMD Citation details: Marriage in Paddington RD in 1Q 1889, ref 1a 48 Text: Lovelock, Walter Thomas Konradt, Katherina Quality of data: primary evidence |
Census | Katharina Konradt — View this family 1891 (Age 22 years) Citation details: agreed transcription added RL 28-Jun-07 Quality of data: primary evidence Source: 1891 British Census |
Death of a maternal grandfather | George Phillis about March 1892 (Age 24 years) Citation details: Death in 1Q 1892 in Winchester RD, ref 2c 102 Text: Phillis, George (77) Quality of data: primary evidence Note: Died in same quarter as wife Eliza; we have no info. re. order of deaths.
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Death of a maternal grandmother | Eliza Pearce about March 1892 (Age 24 years) Citation details: Death in 1Q 1892 in Winchester RD, ref 2c 102 Text: Phillis, Eliza (78) Quality of data: primary evidence Note: Died in same quarter as husband George; we have no info. re. order of deaths.
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Birth of a daughter #1 | Sapfia Elizabeth Lovelock 7 December 1892 (Age 24 years) Text: Lovelock, Saptia Elizabeth Quality of data: primary evidence Note: RL 20/6/07: Graham and I agree that this entry is Walter and Katherina's daughter Elizabeth, but we differ over the reading of her first name in the image. See note to birth for more details.
Note: Especially 1/4 Feb 2007.
Source: 1901 British Census Source: GRO Index of Births Text: Bromley RD, ref 2a 456 (registered in Jan-Mar 1893) |
Census | Katharina Konradt — View this family 1901 (Age 32 years) Source: 1901 British Census Citation details: agreed transcription added RL 28-Jun-07 Quality of data: primary evidence |
Death of a half-sister | Rose Emma Butler between July 1909 and September 1909 (Age 41 years) Source: GRO Index of Deaths Text: Winchester RD, ref 2c 61 (age 31) (registered in married name of Avery) |
Census | 1911 (Age 42 years) |
Marriage of a child | Alfred George Cross — Sapfia Elizabeth Lovelock — View this family between April 1917 and June 1917 (Age 49 years) Source: GRO Index of Marriages Text: Woolwich RD, ref 1d 2065 Note: The bride was recorded as Elizabeth S Lovelock.
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Death of a mother | Sarah Susan Phillis between January 1927 and March 1927 (Age 58 years) Source: GRO Index of Deaths Text: Bradfield RD, ref 2c 555 (age 86) (registered as Susan Butler) |
Death | 3 March 1934 (Age 66 years) Source: GRO Index of Deaths Text: Woolwich RD, ref 1d 1462 (age 66) Note: The details of his Will name him as John Thomas otherwise Walter Thomas Lovelock, with Administration granted to his widow Katharina.
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Family with parents |
father |
John Thomas Lovelock Birth: between October 1844 and November 1844 33 30 — Winchester, Hampshire, England Death: about December 1873 — Whitchurch RD, Whitchurch, Hampshire, England |
mother |
Sarah Susan Phillis Birth: about 1841 27 29 — North Waltham, Hampshire, England Death: between January 1927 and March 1927 |
Marriage: 25 December 1865 — Micheldever, Hampshire, England |
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3 months elder brother |
George John Lovelock Birth: about March 1866 21 25 — Micheldever, Hampshire, England Death: about September 1938 — Hereford RD, Hereford, Herefordshire, England |
2 years himself |
Walter John Lovelock Birth: about March 1868 23 27 — Stockbridge, Hampshire, England Death: 3 March 1934 |
3 years younger brother |
William Edward Lovelock Birth: between November 1870 and December 1870 26 29 — Barton Stacey, Hampshire, England Death: |
3 years younger sister |
Sarah Kate Lovelock Birth: 16 May 1873 28 32 — Romsey, Hampshire, England Death: between July 1951 and September 1951 |
Mother’s family with William Butler |
step-father |
William Butler Birth: between 1835 and 1836 — Micheldever, Hampshire, England Death: |
mother |
Sarah Susan Phillis Birth: about 1841 27 29 — North Waltham, Hampshire, England Death: between January 1927 and March 1927 |
Marriage: between January 1876 and March 1876 — Winchester RD, Winchester, Hampshire, England |
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2 years half-sister |
Rose Emma Butler Birth: between October 1877 and December 1877 42 36 — Micheldever, Hampshire, England Death: between July 1909 and September 1909 |
3 years half-sister |
Elizabeth Eliza Butler Birth: between July 1880 and September 1880 45 39 — Micheldever, Hampshire, England Death: |
4 years half-brother |
Arthur Charles Butler Birth: between January 1884 and March 1884 49 43 — Micheldever, Hampshire, England Death: between April 1958 and June 1958 |
Family with Katharina Konradt |
himself |
Walter John Lovelock Birth: about March 1868 23 27 — Stockbridge, Hampshire, England Death: 3 March 1934 |
wife |
Katharina Konradt Birth: between 1865 and 1866 — Bad Kreusnach, Germany Death: between January 1948 and March 1948 |
Marriage: 24 February 1889 — St Mary, Paddington Green, London, England |
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4 years daughter |
Sapfia Elizabeth Lovelock Birth: 7 December 1892 24 27 — Chislehurst, Kent, England Death: between April 1970 and June 1970 |
Birth | GEDCOM file as uploaded to Lovelock website 5 March 2007; created by James Loveluck and exported from his [Legacy] database. |
Birth | Robin Lovelock & Graham Lovelock: email discussions July 2006/July 2007 Note: See especially 1/4 Feb 2007 exchange.
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Birth | BMDIndex (via www.thegenealogist.co.uk) Citation details: Birth in 1Q 1868 in Stockbridge RD, ref 2c 86 Text: Lovelock, John Thomas [sic] Quality of data: primary evidence Note: RL 20/6/07: See note to birth entry for discussion of names as recorded.
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Birth | 1871 British Census |
Birth | 1881 British Census |
Christening | 'Lovelocks in Hampshire' data on main Lovelock website Text: Despite the GRO record of the birth being in the name of John Thomas the baptism record is in the name of Walter Thomas. |
Census | GEDCOM file as uploaded to Lovelock website 5 March 2007; created by James Loveluck and exported from his [Legacy] database. |
Census | Robin Lovelock & Graham Lovelock: email discussions July 2006/July 2007 Citation details: agreed transcription added RL 27-Jun-07 Quality of data: primary evidence Note: RL 27/6/07: Replaced a previous transcription - small additions/differences.
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Census | 1881 British Census Citation details: provided by Robin Lovelock, email message 14-Jul-06 Quality of data: primary evidence Note: RL 27/6/07: I'm not sure whether we've viewed an image of this entry, so citation quality not claimed as 'Primary'.
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Marriage | Graham Lovelock Note: GL/RL email exchange 1/4 Feb 2007.
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Marriage | Robin Lovelock & Graham Lovelock: email discussions July 2006/July 2007 Note: See especially 1/4 Feb 2007 exchange.
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Marriage | GRO - FreeBMD Citation details: Marriage in Paddington RD in 1Q 1889, ref 1a 48 Text: Lovelock, Walter Thomas Konradt, Katherina Quality of data: primary evidence |
Marriage | 'Lovelocks in Middlesex' data on main Lovelock website |
Census | Robin Lovelock & Graham Lovelock: email discussions July 2006/July 2007 Citation details: agreed transcription added RL 28-Jun-07 Quality of data: primary evidence |
Census | 1891 British Census |
Census | 1901 British Census |
Census | Robin Lovelock & Graham Lovelock: email discussions July 2006/July 2007 Citation details: agreed transcription added RL 28-Jun-07 Quality of data: primary evidence |
Death | GRO Index of Deaths Text: Woolwich RD, ref 1d 1462 (age 66) |
Death | National Probate Calendars data on main Lovelock website |
Source | Robin Lovelock, updated gedcom 24-Aug-07 Publication: Updated gedcom file provided by Robin Lovelock 24 Aug 2007. Includes contributions from Graham Lovelock |
Source | Originating email discussion |
Source | GEDCOM file as uploaded to Lovelock website 5 March 2007; created by James Loveluck and exported from his [Legacy] database. |
Birth | RL 20/6/07: Graham and I had an exchange 1/4 Feb 2007 concerning the marriage and family of Walter L who we had as b 1867/8 Stockbridge [presumably from the 1871 and 1881 entries]. As a result of our explorations {more details below**} we believe the following birth entry is in fact our man: John Thomas L, Stockbridge RD 1Q 1868, 2c 86. He's entered as 'Walter Thomas' in the GRO record of his 1889 marriage [see also 1891 and 1901 census extracts - although he's just 'Walter' in both]. ** Walter's stated place of birth in the 1891 and 1901 census extracts (with his wife and [in 1901] daughter), which Graham located, was Micheldever (like his brother George); whereas in the 1871 (Romsey) and 1881 (Annel Lane, Micheldever) entries (with his parents and his [widowed and remarried] mother respectively), he's recorded as born Stockbridge. Apart from this everything else we have is consistent with the 1Q 1868 John Thomas birth registration being our Walter (Thomas). Given the familiar difficulties around 'actual' birthplaces where we have GRO and census (especially 'varying' census) data but no PR record, I decided to re-check BMDIndex for Walter and his siblings. In addition, doubting from local knowledge that Micheldever and Stockbridge would be in the same RD, I turned to Genuki. Stockbridge, somewhat to my surprise, turns out to have been 'its own' RD until 1932; Micheldever, as one would expect, was in Winchester RD all the while. Perhaps the family moved when Walter was a babe-in-arms, in which case as far as he would have been concerned Micheldever was where he'd 'always' lived as a boy ...... Regarding the 'variation' in his names, perhaps the parents changed their minds about what to call him after registering the child. It doesn't seem to have been simply his own later preference to be 'Walter', since he was entered as 'Walter' both in the 1871 (aged 3) and the 1881 (aged 13) - so neither was it probably just his mother's idea. |
Birth | See especially 1/4 Feb 2007 exchange. |
Birth | RL 20/6/07: See note to birth entry for discussion of names as recorded. |
Census | Annel Lane, Micheldever, Hampshire, England RG11 1229 F43 P29 William Butler;Head;M;45;Farm Labr;Hants, Micheldever Susan Butler;Wife;M;40;;Hants, N Waltham George Lovelock;Son;U;15;Farm Labr;Hants, Micheldever Walter Lovelock;Son;;13;Farm Labr;Hants, Stockbridge William Lovelock;Son;;10;Scholar;Hants, Barton Stacey Kate Lovelock;Daur;;7;Scholar;Hants, Romsey Rose Butler;Daur;;3;Scholar;Hants, Micheldever Elizabeth Butler;Daur;6m;;Hants, Micheldever |
Census | RL 27/6/07: Replaced a previous transcription - small additions/differences. |
Census | RL 27/6/07: I'm not sure whether we've viewed an image of this entry, so citation quality not claimed as 'Primary'. |
Marriage | GL/RL email exchange 1/4 Feb 2007. |
Marriage | See especially 1/4 Feb 2007 exchange. |
Census | Chislehurst, Kent, England 23 Balmoral Grove RG12 632 F129 P15 John Slade;Head;W;37;Police Constable;Berks, Brightwaltham Amy Slade;Sister;S [sic];38;Housekeeper;Berks, Brightwaltham Walter Lovelock;Head;M;24;Gardener;Hants, Micheldever Kathleen Lovelock;Wife;25;;Germany, Kreusnach |
Census | 21 Lower Pellipar Road, Woolwich, London, England RG13 567 F124 P42 Walter Lovelock;Head;M;35;Arsenal Labourer;Hants, Mitcheldever Kathe Lovelock;Wife;M;36;;Germany Elizabeth Lovelock;Daur;;8;;Kent, Chislehurst |
Census | 37 St James Place, Plumstead, Kent, England RG14 PN2887 RG78 PN99 RD30 SD3 ED5 SN188 Walter Lovelock;Head;47;Mechanic's Labourer Royal Arsenal Woolwich;Romsey, Hants Kate Lovelock;Wife, married 22 years;47;;Germany German Elizabeth Lovelock;Daur;18;;Chislehurst, Kent |
Death | The details of his Will name him as John Thomas otherwise Walter Thomas Lovelock, with Administration granted to his widow Katharina. |
Shared note | RL 20/6/07: Graham and I had an exchange 1/4 Feb 2007 conce rning Walter's marriage and family. In the course of this I identified additional birth details for Walter and his 3 known siblings. See notes to Walter's birth. |